Hello all, I am using NetBSD 9 on my laptop, I installed firefox and mpv and i noticed that video is slow. In youtube I noticed it slow particularly when I am in fullscreen. Mpv reported the following messages when trying to reproduce a video: https://bsd.to/XS4S My laptop has two video cards but I think NetBSD is only using the integrated video card. I provide my dmesg output here: https://bsd.to/Aof2 Also my /proc/cpuinfo is this one: processor: https://bsd.to/uzjK Can somebody help me understand what may be the cause of this? Or how can I fix this? I didn't touch any of the Xorg config stuff. Hope you can help me, was really excited to use NetBSD on my driver laptop. Thanks

@"netbsdnoob"#p7715 ~~Does it help if you install `/multimedia/libvdpau`?~~ My bad, it should already be installed as a dependency of `mpv`

@"pin"#p7716 Actually i found out that libvdpau was not installed.... Anyway after installation, I retried with mpv and the situation is worse, now i have no video. Mpv gives me the following error messages: https://bsd.to/jMJp Any idea? what should I do? It seems like it is not finding the .so, but I am sure I installed libvdpau. What should I do?

@"pin"#p7716 Any other idea on how to solve this?

@"netbsdnoob"#p7734 Nope :( Let's hope somebody else does. You could try posting on the mailing lists, https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/tindex.html

~~The kernel driver is active but Xorg is not using GPU acceleration at all. Please post output of glxinfo, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ls -l /dev/dri. Is your user account a member of the wheel group?~~

@"nia"#p7736 Ok here is the requested infos: glxinfo: https://bsd.to/KbMm cat Xorg.0.log: https://bsd.to/pmcV ls -l /dev/dri output: https://bsd.to/yxDL id: https://bsd.to/MBr3 Any idea on this?

Actually, I think the problem wasn't what I expected. I think we've already fixed it for the next pkgsrc branch... The mpv package was mistakenly built without EGL support. Can you try -vo=sdl for mpv?

Slow Video Problem

netbsdnoob

nia The output of mpv can be found here: https://bsd.to/Dz6J

The issue is the same, the video is extremely slow.

Any other ideas on what could be the problem?
I am lost.

rvp

netbsdnoob As you've introduced me to Vulfpeck, I'll try to help you.

Download the video using youtube-dl, then play it locally using mpv. Press I. How many frames are dropped?

Using my lowest CPU frequency, 800 MHz, playing Dean Town, I see 7 output frames dropped at the end of the video with vo=sdl, and 425 dropped output frames with vo=xv (the default), but, no noticeable slowdowns in either case.

netbsdnoob

rvp Ok i am about to do this test, but in the meanwhile I wanted to share additional info when I tried
to download a youtube video with youtube-dl and tried to play with vlc.

VLC seems not able to work at all with the following errors:
https://bsd.to/WKOt

Are the issues related?
P.S.: I am about to try your suggestion now.

netbsdnoob

rvp I installed:

gst-plugins1-vaapi-1.16.2nb1
intel-vaapi-driver-2.4.0

Then i rebooted, and tried with mpv --vo=vaapi video.mp4, now the video works, but i still get the warning
from mpv that the VO is low quality and that vo=gpu should be the preferred option.

Anyway after installing those packages vlc does not show any warnings about drivers, but still i am not able to play videos.

netbsdnoob

nia Can you tell me how you verified if it was using GPU acceleration or not?
Thanks

nia

netbsdnoob I was wrong. The problem is only with mpv.

rvp

netbsdnoob Can you tell me how you verified if it was using GPU acceleration or not?

This is in the mpv man page. Type Ctrl-h. On FreeBSD, this will toggle HW video decoding--if possible: if your CPU is too old, then some video formats will not be decoded. That Coin Operated video is a good example. It's an AV1 video, and on my CPU, an Intel Core i3 IvyBridge mobile, the vo=sdl driver uses SW decoding (massive frame drops), and only uses OpenGL for rendering the frames. (Compare with the vo=x11 driver which uses SW for both: decoding and rendering.)

Something is wrong on NetBSD though. Doesn't look like HW video decoding is available--no VAAPI/VDPAU (mpv + 9.99.82 + 2021Q1). And, the libva is also pretty old: 2.6, compared to 2.11 on FreeBSD.

netbsdnoob

nia Yes but I wanted to learn how to check if acceleration is enabled.
@nia also it seems i have the same issue with vlc, it just hangs the system.

At first it was complaning about missing driver "intel vaapi", then I installed it, and it still crashes.

Any idea? Also how could i fix mpv to make it work?
Should i recompile it with opengl support?
Do you think that may help?

netbsdnoob

rvp Yes thanks a lot for the info, I deep dived into video playing to really understand where my issue was.

It actually seems that my CPU is too old and requires playing videos using hardware decoding and vaapi as backend.
In this way the performances are acceptable anyway I cannot use --vo=gpu (after i compiled mpv with opengl support, since in the binaries mpv is compiled without opengl support) since it has massive frame drops and sometimes the video hangs.
Anyway thanks for the suggestions.

rvp

netbsdnoob It actually seems that my CPU is too old and requires playing videos using hardware decoding

Well, it depends on the library used too. For example, for AV1 videos, mpv on FreeBSD uses libdav1d whereas mpv on NetBSD uses libaom. My CPU doesn't decode AV1 streams, but, playback on FreeBSD is smooth (with about 90% CPU used); mpv on NetBSD uses about 250% of the CPU (400% = all 4 CPU threads) and playback is choppy with lots of frame drops.

nia

rvp Have you tested ffmpeg built against dav1d on NetBSD?

rvp

nia No...I'll have to compile the beast for that, I thnk.

nia

rvp I did it just now, it gives about a 20% reduction in CPU usage with ffplay4 for me. Committed it 🙂

Gotta test the other players now, xine and vlc...

rvp

nia Gotta test the other players now, xine and vlc...

What a load of work that is... 🇦🇿Azerbaijan🇦🇿 thanks you.

netbsdnoob

nia Really! Thanks from all the users of azerbaijian!

netbsdnoob

rvp are you an azeri brother too ?

rvp

netbsdnoob are you an azeri brother too ?

Absolutely! And, I offer these useful Azerbaijani phrases for the non-Azeris on this board. Please use them in Baku:

Mənim evimə xoş gəldiniz, ancaq xahiş edirəm qorilinizi çöldə qoyun.
(What a wonderful house you have, Madam.)
Oh, mənim! Cənab Şaxta baba, orada nə qədər böyük bir çəkiciniz var!
(Excuse me, can you direct me to the railway station?)
Oi, o pis görünüşlü çəkicini yerə qoy və əvəzinə bu ləzzətli mərci şorbasını iç.
(Waiter! The coffee in your establishment is most excellent!)
NetBSD üçbucaqlı siçanlarla doludur!
(NetBSD is a clean and portable operating system.)

netbsdnoob

rvp Can't wait to see more azeris brothers on NetBSD.
Well, the sentences are not translated correctly, but I see the joke!
They are very funny!

The fourth sentence is particularly useful especially if somebody is hacking on NetBSD in Baku, so the correct
translation would be:
NetBSD təmiz və portativ bir əməliyyat sistemidir!

netbsdnoob

rvp I think a lot of people here is from azerbaijian actually!
One day NetBSD will have its official guide in Azerbaijijani!!! 🇦🇿 🇦🇿

Jay

rvp I think Twitter can't property translate your 4th point :

oui

NetBSD on Intel HD Graphics has always had slightly choppy/slow video playback with screen tearing by default for me. Tested on Intel HD Graphics 530 and 4400. The way I always fix it is changing the default Xorg settings (accelmethod from sna to uxa) and force enable acceleration in Firefox by going to about:config and toggle the layers.acceleration.force-enabled to true - video playback and scroll in Firefox etc gets butter smooth. Maybe this could help improve your situation a little bit?

I don't remember exactly which Xorg option it was, but on my previous computer changing settings like "SwapbuffersWait", "TripleBuffer", "Vsync" etc to false also improved my situation.

You can generate a default Xorg file and play with the settings by running X -configure.

It's also worth noting that trying a current kernel might also help.

netbsdnoob

oui Once i generate my config with X -configure

how can i put that configuration in action?

netbsdnoob

oui well if i enable layers.acceleration.force-enabled firefox just crashes with a segmentation fault.
=(
I tried tinkering with xorg.conf and set accelmethod to uxa as you suggested.

No improvements at the moment.