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    It actually isn't possible to build the linux kernel with clang IIRC, reliably. So gnu-free linux is some way off from a toolchain perspective, but most Linux distributions don't ship a toolchain as a core part of the OS like the BSDs do (and like POSIX specifies).

      nia I've been building my own Linux kernel with clang for some time now. These days it's as easy as passing USE_LLVM=1 to make. (That uses the whole LLVM toolchain actually.)

        pfr I'll give up my quest on this one I suppose

        I should've been more careful in my initial reading of this. I assumed you meant. "What can we do to rid NetBSD of all GNU stuff", when I should've read it as: "What can I do to get rid of the GNU on my machine". In which case, it's not that quixotic of a quest. Taking @nia's list, there are replacements possible:

        grep: plenty of performant replacements written in Rust on github. (not sure if they take the same switches, etc.)
        gettest: purge
        texinfo: purge
        groff: purge (most docs already come with the plain-text and .ps versions)
        cvs/rcs: ??? (only of interest to developers)
        binutils: use clang tools? (ld.lld, llvm-ar, ...) ( " )
        gcc: clang, pcc ( " )

            rvp I should've been more careful in my initial reading of this. I assumed you meant. "What can we do to rid NetBSD of all GNU stuff", when I should've read it as: "What can I do to get rid of the GNU on my machine".

            This is what I meant, yes.

            While not anywhere near as feature ritch as sed or awk, I've been fond of sd as a simple find & replace tool.

            rvp groff: purge (most docs already come with the plain-text and .ps versions)

            I quite like using groff, in fact I've used it to write several documents recently, including my resume.
            I've been looking at neatroff as a replacement.

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                  pfr I quite like using groff, in fact I've used it to write several documents recently, including my resume.

                  Colour me impressed! Macro package or straight troff?

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                      Sound like what you are looking for is something like BusyBox maybe? Is it the GPL you want to avoid, or GNU as in the umbrella of GNU software actually from GNU?

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                      pfr Kind of like the aforementioned Linux distributions that are GNU free.

                      GNU-free Linux---Hmm, wonder what they do about that pesky GPL'ed kernel, though...