Greetings everybody; the idea of having a similar thread has crossed my mind a couple of times already, so I thought I'd better start one now that I have some more spare time. Below the /etc/mk.conf I use on my desktop. Replies - if ever there will be any - are very appreciated. ## GENERAL SETTINGS # machine-specific workdirs OBJMACHINE=yes # sanity checks for shared libs PKG_DEVELOPER=yes # default pkg prefix LOCALBASE=/usr/pkg # pkg database dir PKG_DBDIR=/usr/pkg/pkgdb # build on tmpfs WRKOBJDIR=/var/tmp/pkg # PGP -signed packages #SIGN_PACKAGES=gpg #GPG=/usr/pkg/bin/gpg2 GPG_SIGN_AS=0xkey_id # sign pckgs with a trusted CA cert SIGN_PACKAGES=x509 X509_CERTIFICATE=/etc/openssl/certs/pkgsrc.crt X509_KEY=/etc/openssl/private/pkgsrc.key # where to store generated packages PACKAGES?=${_PKGSRCDIR}/packages/${MACHINE_ARCH} # used to elevate privileges .if exists(${LOCALBASE}/bin/doas) SU_CMD=${LOCALBASE}/bin/doas /bin/sh -c .endif # default 'make clean' on deps CLEANDEPENDS=YES # use binary packages for dependencies UPDATE_TARGET=bin-install DEPEND_TARGET=bin-install BINPKG_SITES=BINPKG_SITES="https://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/$(uname -p)/$(uname -r|cut -f '1 2' -d.|cut -f 1 -d_)" ## FETCHING DISTFILES FETCH_FAILOVER=yes # resume downloads PKG_RESUME_TRANSFERS=YES # fetch using wget FETCH_CMD=${LOCALBASE}/bin/wget FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=–passive-ftp FETCH_RESUME_ARGS=-c FETCH_OUTPUT_ARGS=-O # preferred domains list MASTER_SORT=.eu .it .ch .at .fr .de .es .nl .uk .at .be .cz .pl .se .fi .no .dk ## HARDENING NO_CHECKSUM=no ALLOW_VULNERABLE_PACKAGES=NO # stack protector PKGSRC_USE_SSP?=strong # fortify source PKGSRC_USE_FORTIFY?=strong # position-independent executables PKGSRC_MKPIE?=yes # link with RELRO PKGSRC_USE_RELRO?=partial # stack boundary verification PKGSRC_USE_STACK_CHECK?= yes ## OPTIMIZATIONS MAKE_JOBS=6 .if defined(BSD_PKG_MK) #.include "/etc/mk.extra.conf" GZIP?=--fast CPUFLAGS+=-O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mfpmath=sse -msse2 -march=native #CFLAGS+= -Wfatal-errors INSTALL_UNSTRIPPED= yes PKGSRC_COMPILER=ccache gcc CCACHE_DIR=/home/vincent/.cache/ccache .endif ## PKG_ALTERNATIVES PYTHON_VERSION_DEFAULT=39 LUA_VERSION_DEFAULT=54 PHP_VERSION_DEFAULT=80 RUBY_VERSION_DEFAULT=30 # avoid linking against outdated libs PREFER_PKGSRC?=MesaLib Xft2 Xrandr Xrender expat fontconfig freetype2 glu openssl pixman xcursor ## PATCHES LOCALPATCHES=/usr/pkgsrc/patches ## LICENSES #SKIP_LICENSE_CHECK=yes ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES+=erlang-public-license gnu-agpl-v3 lame-license ms-ttf-license no-commercial-use opemotif-license public-domain unrar-license ruby-license sendmail-open-source-license sun-jdk14-license vim-license xv-license # PKG_OPTIONS PKG_OPTONS.fvwm=xft xrender xcursor -svg PKG_OPTIONS.libfetch=inet6 openssl if(window.hljsLoader && !document.currentScript.parentNode.hasAttribute('data-s9e-livepreview-onupdate')) { window.hljsLoader.highlightBlocks(document.currentScript.parentNode); }

JuvenalUrbino 😁 Don't know about best practice but, here is mine... # mk.conf ALLOW_VULNERABLE_PACKAGES=1 MAKE_JOBS=4 PKG_DEVELOPER=yes if(window.hljsLoader && !document.currentScript.parentNode.hasAttribute('data-s9e-livepreview-onupdate')) { window.hljsLoader.highlightBlocks(document.currentScript.parentNode); } Some of the things you have are default when not specified, so you don't really need them on a native NetBSD system. Nice initiative, I do hope to see some more examples 😉

pin Some of the things you have are default when not specified, so you don't really need them on a native NetBSD system. Would have bet so; coming from an illumos/macOS background (I started using pkgsrc before coming to NetBSD), where most of those settings (all?) aren't taken for granted, I embraced the habit of always specifying them so as not to get confused, even though nowadays I don't use neither macOS nor Illumos (but I do use pkgsrc on Linux). Off-topic note / advocacy moment : for the record I've also used pkgsrc on DragonFly at the time when it was its official package management system, on Solaris 10 with SunStudio 12.1 compiler and kind of got it working (just to compile tcsh) on IRIX with MIPSPro compiler....because pkgsrc is that good. Unfortunately my last Illumos installation, a Samsung laptop, died few months ago (bad blocks on HDD, unreadable sectors, multiple failures, not gonna waste waste money in such a old machine) and there's no newer hardware where to put it for desktop usage. I miss Solaris, but in the meantime I'm enjoying Linux Fun fact : On both Solaris and IRIX, as well as Illumos up untill very recently, you would also specify ABI={32,64} inside mk.conf, as userland by default is multilib and consists of both 32bit and 64bit ELFs, with a 64bit kernel (somewhat like nowadays it happens on Windows NT 64bit, where you also have 'Program Files(x86)')

share your mk.conf: pkgsrc best practices

nia

I have two mk.confs, one for pbulk and one for non-pbulk.

This is shared between them:

LOCALBASE?=	/usr/pkg

ALLOW_VULNERABLE_PACKAGES=	yes
SKIP_LICENSE_CHECK=		yes
FAILOVER_FETCH=			yes
PKG_DEVELOPER=			yes
PKGSRC_USE_SSP=			strong

PREFER_PKGSRC=			MesaLib glu glw libdrm libepoxy

PKG_DEFAULT_OPTIONS+=		-avahi
PKG_OPTIONS.qt5+=		gtk3
PKG_OPTIONS.libreoffice+=	gtk3 -java
PKG_OPTIONS.xfce4-thunar+=	-gvfs
PKG_OPTIONS.links+=		-bzip2 -lzma
PKG_OPTIONS.qt5-qtmultimedia+=	-pulseaudio
PKG_OPTIONS.mgba+=		-ffmpeg -imagemagick -qt5
PKG_OPTIONS.portaudio+=		jack
PKG_OPTIONS.avahi+=		-gtk3

This is for non-pbulk (pkgsrc development, mostly)

.if defined(BSD_PKG_MK)
.include "/etc/mk.extra.conf"

#CFLAGS+=	-Wfatal-errors
#CFLAGS+=	-Og -g
MAKE_JOBS=	3

FETCH_USING=	curl

# memory limits
MAKE_JOBS.qt5-qtwebkit=	2
MAKE_JOBS.webkit-gtk=	2
MAKE_JOBS.widelands=	2

INSTALL_UNSTRIPPED=	yes
PKGSRC_COMPILER=	ccache gcc
CCACHE_DIR=		/home/nia/.cache/ccache

.if exists(${LOCALBASE}/bin/sudo)
SU_CMD=	${LOCALBASE}/bin/sudo /bin/sh -c
.endif
.endif

This is for pbulk:

.if defined(BSD_PKG_MK)
.include "/etc/mk.extra.conf"

MAKE_JOBS=	4

MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE=		http://cdn.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/distfiles/
MASTER_SITE_BACKUP=		http://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/distfiles/
.endif

nia PKG_OPTIONS.qt5-qtmultimedia+= -pulseaudio

Interesting 🤔 ...
when you do this, what does qt5-qtmultimedia use for audio back-end? Guess gstreamer, is this correct?

nia

pin You just get no sound. It's probably possible to configure alsa to output via oss, but I haven't tried that with qt apps.

JuvenalUrbino

pin possibly she's patching OpenAL to directly support NetBSD's audio(4)? I'm not sure whether OpenAL-soft can use SDL2 as backend, but the latter has certainly been working with the native audio API for some time already

Edit: @nia ok, I see 🙂

JuvenalUrbino

Thank you both @pin and @nia for your replies 😉

nia ok, I'll stick with firefox where you have done an awesome work.
The reason I asked was because I've updated qutebrowser in wip but, I don't want pulseaudio, avahi or consolekit on my system and, these are pulled-in. The last one, simply because its abandoned, the other two, due to personal dislike 😉

nia

JuvenalUrbino openal-soft already supports outputting to audio(4) by default. It calls it "solaris".

I don't think Qt5 can use openal as a standard audio output, it's either pulse or alsalib.

nia

pin I'm under the impression that webkit always uses gstreamer for audio output.

A few things use qtmultimedia, but mainly for sound effects and other annoyances. I'm not aware of many things using it as the primary output, maybe just qmmp.

It's probably an unfortunate side-effect of py-qt5 pulling in every qt component. It probably ought to be done on a more granular basis.

nia an unfortunate side-effect of py-qt5 pulling in every qt component. It probably ought to be done on a more granular basis.

Indeed. I would like to continue this discussion but, its getting off topic here...

@Jay Is it possible for you to move this discussion (all that has nothing to do with mk.conf) to the qutebrowser thread?

Jay

pin there's a split option but i doubt it can be merged 🙂 maybe in future it will be implemented via extention

JuvenalUrbino

Jay why not bring the thread on-topic by posting your mk.conf? I'm still waiting for it 😆 ;
As for qtmultimedia, I would have sworn it did pull openal at some point in a not so distant past, but apparently I was wrong 🙂

Jay

JuvenalUrbino mine is simple 😅

ALLOW_VULNERABLE_PACKAGES= yes SKIP_LICENSE_CHECK= yes

JuvenalUrbino As for qtmultimedia, I would have sworn it did pull openal at some point in a not so distant past but apparently I was wrong

Nah, look at options.mk

Jay

What's preferred setup for PKGSRC contributor? For eg. sanboxctl etc so it doesn't mess up workstation !

Jay what do you mean with mess-up?
See, https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/pkgsrc/pbulk/

Jay

pin I broke my X server 😅

Jay how?
X is part of the base system.

Jay

pin upgraded my pkgsrc from 2019q4 to 2020q4 and did make clean and workstation hanged so had to reset now x won't start.

Edit: libffi.so.6 can't be find by mate-session.. I think it can be solved now

Edit1: 2020Q2 😛

Jay 2020q4

😮 You're ahead of time 😁

Jay libffi.so.6

Yeah, those can be a PITA.
All good now?

Jay

pin not yet 😅 we need to write developer's setup guide 🙂

Jay

pin do I need to reinstall all packages or build using pkgsrc? 😅