Guys, I've been waiting all week for my Lenovo X1 Carbon to arrive. Finally FedEx dropped it off today. First thing I did, is I attempted to upgrade the SSD and realized that the gen2 doesn't support NVMe flash. Bummer. No electronics store in my area has an M.2 SATA SSD. That's ok, I'll go ahead and install NetBSD anyways. So now I have some issues. I was very much looking forward to NetBSD on this laptop, but I feel a bit disappointed thus far. First issue, I'm absolutely addicted to two finger scrolling on the touchpad. It's a MUST have for me. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to work. I've not been able to find any sysctl or other tuning I can do to make that work. I also cannot control my brightness. No matter what method I try. The buttons do not work (which I've seen others say online). That's fine, I'll use xbacklight. Except it returns an error "No outputs have backlight property." Hmm, ok. So I try to set hw.acpi.acpiout0.brightness to a value other than 100, but it doesn't work. It doesn't return an error, and the output looks like it actually changes the brightness, but if I check the value immediately afterwards, it's still 100. xfce also can't read the battery status. I see also many people complain about that online, and it seems as though that's due to xfce attempting to use apm instead of envstat. Ok fine, no big deal, I can check my battery via other means, and as mentioned this is actually an xfce problem rather than a NetBSD problem. I'm trying to think of a hackish way I can make it work, but at the end of the day I may need to sit down and try to come up with a patch to submit upstream to xfce. I'm running 9.2-stable (dated 9/3). I can update to -head but I'm not super confident it'll do much, but it couldn't hurt I suppose. Also, there's no screen saver config panel in xfce, strange. I can't seem to find it anywhere. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I can also post necessary output as needed, wasn't sure what to include at this point.

@"ajgraves"#p8968 1. 2-finger scrolling: This works only on some touchpads. Sorry. 2. screen brightness: if you have an Intel card, you can use the `intel_backlight` package. And, if your DE/WM allows it, you can trap those X multimedia keys and then run `intel_backlight incr/decr` appropriately. 3. XFCE battery stats: I've got a patch that I've been sitting on for weeks now--send me an email (same username C/o the SDF Unix System) and I'll send you a binary to test--sonetime this week.

@"rvp"#p8969 thanks! > @"rvp"#p8969 2-finger scrolling: This works only on some touchpads. Sorry. That's a bummer. I haven't installed OpenBSD on this machine yet, but it _just works_ on my other Lenovo hardware. I wonder what's different in their setup/driver. > @"rvp"#p8969 screen brightness: if you have an Intel card, you can use the intel_backlight package. And, if your DE/WM allows it, you can trap those X multimedia keys and then run intel_backlight incr/decr appropriately. Well hell, I tried looking for that package with the underscore and couldn't find it. I just tried now with a dash instead, and there it was. Huzzah! I can change my brightness now! Now I need to figure out how to get the keys to trigger it (if that's even possible, going to try xfce keyboard shortcuts first, then go from there. Thanks! > @"rvp"#p8969 XFCE battery stats: I've got a patch that I've been sitting on for weeks now--send me an email (same username C/o the SDF Unix System) and I'll send you a binary to test--sonetime this week. I will email you. Also, cool to see another SDF user out in the wild! I'm a long-time ARPA member. 😀

> @"ajgraves"#p8970 Now I need to figure out how to get the keys to trigger it Run `xev`. The keys should show up as `XF86...` Or, run this script: ```sh #!/bin/sh # # showkey.sh: de-clutter xev(1) key output. exec xev -event keyboard | awk ' BEGIN { RS = "" } /^Key(Press|Release) / { l = $0 sub(/ event.+keysym 0x[[:xdigit:]]+,/, "", l); sub(/\), .+$/, "", l) print l }' ``` > @"ajgraves"#p8970 I will email you. Got it. > @"ajgraves"#p8970 I'm a long-time ARPA member. Same here.

> @"rvp"#p8976 Or, run this script Thanks! The audio up/down keys are captured, but unfortunately the brightness keys are not. I have a work around though, I did keyboard shortcuts in xfce for Ctrl+Alt+Shift++ and - for brightness up/down. I'll work on audio later but at least I know how to see what keys to attempt to capture there. Curiously, xfce4-mixer appears to be missing from packages.

> @"ajgraves"#p8988 The audio up/down keys are captured, but unfortunately the brightness keys are not. Yeah. I thought it was HW-dependent, but that doesn't appear to be the case: the kernel doesn't pass those keys up to userspace on my laptop either.

> @"rvp"#p8969 2-finger scrolling: This works only on some touchpads Do we know which trackpad's inarticular are supported? > @"ajgraves"#p8970 I haven't installed OpenBSD on this machine yet, but it just works on my other Lenovo hardware. I wonder what's different in their setup/driver. I'd be interested to know the conclusion here, ie. is it a different trackpad or does OpenBSD have more driver support for more trackpads?

> @"pfr"#p8994 I'd be interested to know the conclusion here, ie. is it a different trackpad or does OpenBSD have more driver support for more trackpads? I'm still tinkering with NetBSD on this particular machine. To be fair, the trackpad is very different from that on my other Lenovo systems. If I decided to put OpenBSD on it I'll report back on how it functions there.

@"ajgraves"#p8996 That would be ace. I'm tempted to buy myself an X1 Nano and use NetBSD on that, but I also cannot live without trackpad multi finger input. I put up with it on my X230 but If I'm spending a bit of money on a laptop I'd love to know what is going to work and what isn't.

@"pfr"#p8997 most likely what I’m going to do is buy another SSD for mine. I already did that, but realized that the X1 Carbon I got doesn’t support NVMe 🤣 so I’m going to return the one I bought and get a regular m.2 sata SSD. Once I’ve done that I’ll drop OpenBSD on it.

> @"pfr"#p8994 Do we know which trackpad's inarticular are supported? You're asking a guy who goes out of his way to _disable_ his touchpad ...? Aside from grovelling through the source and xref'ing against the datasheets, I dunno. Try it and see, I guess. See [here](https://www.unitedbsd.com/d/478-touchpad-tapping-in-x/9). Same manufacturer, but different models: his works, mine doesn't.

NetBSD on Lenovo X1 Carbon -- Problems!

rvp

pfr Is there a way to set tablet scrolling mode?

Try:

Option      "YAxisMapping" "5 4"

Ie. switch the numbers around.

pfr

rvp Try:

Option      "YAxisMapping" "5 4"

Ie. switch the numbers around.

Yep, that did the trick!

pin It is actually the default on WIndows now I believe (and possibly many Linux distros). As rvp said, its more intuitive (once you get used to it). just like scrolling on your phone.

pfr opposite direction scrolling, swipe up on trackpad scrolls the page down and vice versa.

Now we're really getting weird 😆

rvp

pin No, for scrolling it's surprisingly more intuitive. Try it.

rvp I've tried both to be honest. "Regular" scrolling on my Linux box and "Reversed" on my working Windows 10 laptop.

Two-finger scrolling is nothing I use tough, I simply don't like it and find it extremely irritating but, these are preferences and the comment above was simply a joke.

For similar reasons (preferences), I don't like ThinkPads, the Ctrl key is in the wrong place. As said, preferences.

nia

pin The Ctrl key is in the wrong place on every Windows computer. 😉

http://www.cosam.org/images/vt220/keyboard.jpg

Though IBM got it right on the original IBM PC:

https://i.imgur.com/xuK3NzT.jpg

I always felt the Unix shell felt more natural with setxkbmap -layout us -option ctrl:swapcaps...

rvp

pin I've tried both to be honest

Then you're one up on me 'cause I routinely disable the things in BIOS. For these tests I've had to a) boot into BIOS b) enable touchpad c) boot into the test NetBSD partition (cause the main one has a kernel where the device has been compiled out) d) change X config. e) run X to check things f) boot into other partitions and make the post.

nia setxkbmap -layout us -option ctrl:swapcaps...

Yeah. Also in wscons(4)/vt(4)/... One of the first things I do on any Unix.

mccd

rvp Hey, sorry for bumping a very old thread.

I just gave this a spin on my computer, and adding the file with that exact setup (except changing emulatewheelbutton to 2) does nothing on my device with CWM. Is there anything more needed for it to work?

rvp

mccd Ah, looks like the X server doesn't load the mouse input driver anymore without special settings.

Can you add this to the beginning of mouse.conf:

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option      "AutoAddDevices" "off"
EndSection

Note that "AutoAddDevices" "off" can be very buggy. If a USB keyboard happens to disconnect for some reason, then it never recovers (even with a re-plug) and you get weird and repeating keys, and then you'll have to physically reboot the system.

mccd

rvp Wow! Yes now it works.

mccd

rvp So I replaced my touchpad recently to a synaptics one to get two-finger scroll working.

And it does work... however when I enable the scroll emulation with middle click using the steps above, it seems to break the two-finger scroll. Curious if you have any idea how to enable them together?

Edit: Looking at the documentation, it seems that there should be an option "hw.synaptics.aux_mid_button_scroll", but it appears to not be working on my device.

Edit 2: I was able to resolve it!

I was able to fix it by patching /sys/dev/pckbport/synaptics.c

On line 1691 I changed 0x2 to 0x40, which I found by adding printf to detect the state code. Recompiling the kernel and trying it, now middle click scroll works flawlessly.

asdfBSD

rvp
I just created an account to say thank you for this post. Middle button scroll is now working on my X230, thank you.

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