Getting USB mice to work w/o moused

hd_scania

Shawn (their founder) has told to me that his USB mices are working well without needing moused
But by how? He hasn’t told to me yet, and they don’t have any official wiki articles on his own USB mice practice beyond moused
https://git-01.md.hardenedbsd.org/HardenedBSD/HardenedBSD/issues/24#issuecomment-802

rvp

hd_scania Shawn (their founder) has told to me that his USB mices are working well without needing moused

This is correct, at least on FreeBSD-12.2. You just need devd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (already set by default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf) and Xorg should use libinput for mice, keyboard, etc. (this is also the default--check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for confirmation).

JuvenalUrbino

hd_scania
To what @rvp already said, I'll add you ought to make sure not .conf file in xorg.conf.d contains any InputDevice section pointing to either 'mouse'/'synaptics' (from xf86-input_mouse/xf86-input-synaptics) as Driver, or '/dev/sysmouse' (the virtualized pointer for user processes to use, which relies on moused) as Device. For libinput to work with keyboard/touchpad, you need something like:

Section "InputClass"
    Identifier "libinput keyboard catchall"
    MatchIsKeyboard "on"
    MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
    Driver "libinput"
    Option "XkbRules" "evdev"
EndSection

Section "InputClass"
    Identifier "libinput touchpad catchall"
    MatchIsTouchpad "on"
    MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
    Driver "libinput"
    Option "MiddleEmulation" "on"
    Option "DisableWhileTyping" "off"
EndSection

a proper standardconfig already comes with the libinput package itself, and is included in the xorg meta-package

bsduck

Until FreeBSD 12.1 I had to enable moused for my touchpad to work. After updating to 12.2 I noticed the behaviour had changed (faster moving cursor and two-finger scrolling instead of right-edge). I tried disabling moused and it had no impact, which meant defaults had been changed and I was not using moused anymore even if enabled.

JuvenalUrbino

bsduck After updating to 12.2 I noticed the behaviour had changed (faster moving cursor and two-finger scrolling instead of right-edge). I tried disabling moused and it had no impact, which meant defaults had been changed and I was not using moused anymore even if enabled.

I may be wrong, but I think 12.2 GENERIC kernel comes with EVDEV_SUPPORT enabled by default, for ums(4) and psm(4) to use, supposedly resulting in improvements like better tilt wheel support for mice and centralized gesture support via libinput for touchpads (and USB HID devices, thus deprecating webcamd); the xorg-server meta-package for 12.2 is compiled with UDEV=on and DEVD=off, which results in Xorg resolving to udev (via libudev-devd) for autoconfiguration of input devices, as opposed to devd.; this in turns deprecates moused/sysmouse + xf86-input-mouse and makes evdev (through the libudev-devd shim)+ libinput (through xf86-input-libinput) the default backend to use for input device configuration (the alternative being xf86-input-evdev) in both Xorg and Wayland. Generic input devices are now therefore discovered at /dev/input/event*, just like on Linux. Yes, this looks complicate to me too.

bsduck

Thanks for the explanation, I had no idea how those things work.

hd_scania

bsduck No idea? But i've put up the USB mice using ums, loaded as an kmod 😃
Enjoy every people else! 😎