What does your BSD look like?

qik You've made it 👍️

rvp

qik I can now run NetBSD with GNOME as my desktop machine.

Is this one step closer to @nia's dream of total NetBSD world-domination?

qik

pfr I suspect GNOME could run well on lower specs given enough investment in optimizations.

Regarding steam - yeah, maybe 🙂 Would rely heavily on Linux emulation anyway.

rvp Is this one step closer to @nia's dream of total NetBSD world-domination?

One can only hope 😆

pfr

qik I rate this. It seems a little counter intuitive to me at first because I generally think of running NetBSD on lower-spec machines. But if you've got some modern hardware, why not?

Now if we can package steam for NetBSD that'll be the icing on the cake.

neubaer

pfr Steam is kinda questionable when the only GPUs NetBSD supports are Intel integrated and 8 year old Radeons. It would do more good to get amdgpu working first. That's what I'm waiting for anyway...

EDIT: Oh and I guess some older Nvidias with a driver that makes them as fast as the Intel iGPUs.

qik

Will commit GNOME 40 to pkgsrc-wip soon 🙂

pfr

qik I actually really like Gnome, it's very polished.
I wonder though, does NetBSD support all the multi finger track-pad gesture functions? I still can't even 2-finger scroll on web pages.

qik

pfr I can't connect a trackpad to test, but multi-point gestures probably don't work. I believe those are handled through libinput, which is not available on NetBSD.

There's a discussion about libinput on @nia's post: http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and

pfr

qik handled through libinput, which is not available on NetBSD.

There's a discussion about libinput on @nia's post: http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and

Hmmm Looks like libevdev is in pkgsrc/wip would this be the solution? One of the comments in that blog post suggests so.

Jay

pfr it is currently not building on NetBSD 🙂

@Jay and @pfr C'mon guys, please read the Makefile of the package, it clearly states, ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* 😉

You can also find libudev and libinput itself in wip.

pfr

pin C'mon guys, please read the Makefile of the package, it clearly states, ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux--

Perhaps this needs to be stated also in the description https://pkgsrc.se/wip/libevdev ?

Anyhow, that answers my question at least. But the next question is, what it stopping it from being ported to NetBSD when it is already available on FreeBSD?

pfr Perhaps this needs to be stated also in the description https://pkgsrc.se/wip/libevdev ?

Could be, perhaps that would make it obvious.

pfr what it stopping it from being ported to NetBSD when it is already available on FreeBSD?

I'll refrain from comments regarding this.

pfr

pin I'll refrain from comments regarding this.

😅 Oh, fair enough, I'm just curious. Feel free to link articles/blogs that go into it if you don't want to spill the tea 🫖

JuvenalUrbino

Should we create a general question weekly/monthly thread to prevent the screenshot thread from being burdened with minor desktop-oriented chat? Also, time for a new pinned screenshot thread? This one has over 500 post and I imagine it being hard to scroll for new users

JuvenalUrbino Good suggestion.

@Jay I'm taking the freedom to lock this thread and initiate a new one.

grahamperrin

KDE Plasma 5 on FreeBSD-CURRENT on an HP EliteBook8570p with an external display.

Twelve virtual desktops:

For legibility, I usually have the resolution of the HP display reduced to 1,280 x 720 pixels –

– but for the shots below, I maximised it to 1,600 x 900.

One of the twelve desktops:

Overviews:

grahamperrin

Yesterday, testing multiprocess Firefox 55.0.2 with dom.ipc.processCount set to 20 (more than the content process limit of 7 that's permissible through about:preferences):

– whilst using poudriere with PARALLEL_JOBS=2 on the four-processor notebook to build x11/kde. Significant use of swap, performance was OK.

Today, whilst building www/firefox (preparing to install 55.0.3) I have hit the content process limit of 20, again there's significant use of swap, performance is great…

  1  [||||||||||||||||||||||||          58.6%]   Tasks: 170, 0 thr, 33 kthr; 8 running
  2  [|||||||||||||||||||||||||         61.3%]   Load average: 3.83 4.16 4.96 
  3  [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||      70.2%]   Uptime: 01:40:27
  4  [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||      70.7%]
  Mem[||||||||||||||||||||||||||||9.67G/15.9G]
  Swp[||||||||||||||||||          3.63G/8.00G]

S   PID USER      PRI  NI  VIRT   RES S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
S  1745 grahamper  25   0 3877M 2046M S 12.0 12.6 42:24.93 firefox
R  1882 grahamper  31   0 7707M 1183M R 19.1  7.3 11:45.64 seamonkey
R  1775 grahamper  91   0 1947M  633M R 68.3  3.9 58:05.35 firefox -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBr
R  1847 grahamper  86   0 1887M  593M R 47.7  3.6 39:50.15 firefox -contentproc -childID 30 -isForB
S  1853 grahamper  20   0 1873M  590M S  0.0  3.6  3:10.67 firefox -contentproc -childID 33 -isForB
S  1846 grahamper  20   0 1732M  522M S  0.0  3.2  2:19.44 firefox -contentproc -childID 29 -isForB
S  1856 grahamper  20   0 1784M  514M S  0.0  3.2  3:46.48 firefox -contentproc -childID 34 -isForB
S  1496 grahamper  20   0  938M  507M S  3.8  3.1  2:28.85 kwin_x11 -session 1037131636631300015018
S  1851 grahamper  20   0 1788M  502M S  0.9  3.1  4:38.98 firefox -contentproc -childID 32 -isForB
S  1844 grahamper  21   0 1761M  487M S  1.9  3.0  5:56.02 firefox -contentproc -childID 28 -isForB
S  1848 grahamper  22   0 1655M  444M S  2.1  2.7  3:06.20 firefox -contentproc -childID 31 -isForB
S  1834 grahamper  20   0 1617M  415M S  0.0  2.6  2:49.58 firefox -contentproc -childID 23 -isForB
S  1805 grahamper  20   0 1635M  395M S  0.0  2.4  2:46.46 firefox -contentproc -childID 18 -isForB
S  1828 grahamper  20   0 1608M  358M S  0.0  2.2  1:31.28 firefox -contentproc -childID 21 -isForB
S  1819 grahamper  20   0 1632M  357M S  0.0  2.2  2:58.18 thunderbird
S  1842 grahamper  20   0 1612M  352M S  0.0  2.2  2:11.45 firefox -contentproc -childID 27 -isForB
S  1836 grahamper  20   0 1607M  351M S  0.0  2.2  1:56.94 firefox -contentproc -childID 24 -isForB
S  1807 grahamper  20   0 1578M  346M S  0.1  2.1  1:57.61 firefox -contentproc -childID 19 -isForB
S  1857 grahamper  20   0 1597M  345M S  0.0  2.1  1:51.81 firefox -contentproc -childID 35 -isForB
S  1840 grahamper  20   0 1593M  336M S  0.0  2.1  1:44.96 firefox -contentproc -childID 26 -isForB
S  1803 grahamper  20   0 1574M  325M S  0.0  2.0  1:39.09 firefox -contentproc -childID 17 -isForB
S  1838 grahamper  20   0 1501M  281M S  0.0  1.7  1:39.34 firefox -contentproc -childID 25 -isForB
S  1832 grahamper  20   0 1540M  278M S  0.7  1.7 15:28.85 firefox -contentproc -childID 22 -isForB
S  1817 grahamper  20   0 1450M  199M S  0.0  1.2  1:41.52 firefox -contentproc -childID 20 -isForB
S  1306 root       21   0  253M  158M S  3.8  1.0  5:58.10 X -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/sddm/{9e4
S  1502 grahamper  26   0  521M  149M S 12.1  0.9  6:48.31 plasmashell
R 66836 nobody     81   0  160M  123M R 31.2  0.8  0:03.69 c++ -cc1 -triple x86_64-unknown-freebsd1
S 62840 grahamper  20   0  191M 80788 S  0.0  0.5  0:01.43 kinfocenter
S  1760 grahamper  20   0  256G 76644 S  0.0  0.5  0:14.00 dolphin
S  1809 grahamper  20   0  195M 69692 S  4.1  0.4  0:45.45 konsole
S 59449 grahamper  20   0 95532 57864 S  0.0  0.3  0:01.18 eom /home/grahamperrin/Pictures/2017-08-

asx

grahamperrin

Not entirely on-topic, for fun, capturing one of the days when I found myself with one thousand, one hundred tabs in Firefox 56:

– a server, not Firefox, spoilt my first attempt to capture the moment.

Better:

–and as a bonus prize, here's the post in that screenshot (I still smile to myself when remembering this blooper): https://experts.feverbee.com/t/bloopers/5452/8?u=graham_perrin

Healthy:

Not so healthy:

– the peculiarity in the sidebar of the Firefox window is recognisable, to me, as a sign that Firefox might crash at quit time.

Last but not least, some stupidity, beginning with a detailed recording of the crash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLpKZAtyjRo

Throwing myself to the dogs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/78dtnc/no_disney_dogs_neither_is_this_halfhour_screen/

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